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Title: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 14, 2015, 04:15:24 PM
Hi everyone,

I can't seem to find the correct path to get to the crab boss, can anybody help out with that? Also, is there a full map of the stage selection screen somewhere for the Vita version? I haven't been able to find any online. Thanks.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 14, 2015, 04:31:56 PM
0-11-12-16-17-18-19-53-56-20-21
This is the shortest and easiest route to the first crab boss. The full stage map is available when you're playing in a level if you pause the game, too.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 14, 2015, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: Alc on May 14, 2015, 04:31:56 PM
0-11-12-16-17-18-19-53-56-20-21
This is the shortest and easiest route to the first crab boss. The full stage map is available when you're playing in a level if you pause the game, too.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 14, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
No problem.

It's kind of pointless given that it's in the game, but anyway, I just put together full stage map with a bit of ASCII:

        S----0-┐
        ┌--┐ | |
        4  | 1 |
        |  | | |
    ┌---5  | 2 |
    6   |  | | |
    |   10 └-3 |
┌---7   |      |
8   |   11-----┘
|   13  |
9   |   12---51
|   14  |    |
E   |   16   52
┌---15  |    |
22  |   17   |
|   25  |    26
23  |   18   |
|   50--┼--->27
24--┐   19<┐ |
|   35  |  | 28
55  |   53 | |
|   36  |  └-29
39  |   56   |
|   37<┐|    57
40  |  └20   |
|  ┌38  |    30
41<┘|   21   |
|   47  |    31
58  |   E    |
|   47  ┌----32
44  |   42   |
|   48  |    33
45  |   43   |
|   59  |    34
46  |   54   |
|   49<-┘    E
E   |
    E
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 14, 2015, 05:52:41 PM
Cool that helps! You can't view the whole map unless you have the levels unlocked in-game, right?
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 14, 2015, 06:14:03 PM
I guess not.

(Edited a couple of errors on it just a second ago - should be correct now.)
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: gendo7 on May 14, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
You're missing the path from 0-11 in there too! :)
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 15, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
Well spotted, fixed.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: KawaseFan on May 15, 2015, 02:19:12 AM
Great work with the stage map, Alc!  Just three things - in the first column, F39 should be in between F55 and F40; in the third column, F56 should be in between F53 and F20; and F54 leads to F49, not to an ending.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 06:27:36 AM
OK, figured out why I never found the crab. I am stuck on Stage 53. There are spikes around both sides of the exit, I can't figure out how to get to it. Any tips?
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 15, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
I did a little replay showing how to do both sides - add me (alcawase on PSN, alc on the game) and you should get access to it, I think.

Thanks for picking up the errors, KawaseFan, hope it's right now!
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: KawaseFan on May 15, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xUoA2X1ZZ0) is how I did stage 53, though since I uploaded it I haven't felt incredibly confident that it's the best way to do it.

And Alc, you've put in stage 45 instead of 54 in the stage map - other than that, looks perfect!
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 15, 2015, 12:51:42 PM
Oh wow, I hadn't thought to trying just jumping the spikes. The ramps in this game still catch me out, with the acceleration physics.

Fixed up the map again!
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
Thanks guys! Was able to beat it and beat the crab!
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: Alc on May 15, 2015, 10:59:07 AM
I did a little replay showing how to do both sides - add me (alcawase on PSN, alc on the game) and you should get access to it, I think.

Thanks for picking up the errors, KawaseFan, hope it's right now!

Added you on PSN Alc, saw that you have 90% trophies on Spelunky. That's one of my absolute favorite games!
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 15, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
600+ hours and counting on Steam; the Vita purchase was just for the hell of it, really. Suffice to say that I love that game and the obsession runs pretty deep. There are races tonight on Twitch, incidentally - you might enjoy them.

Congrats on clearing the crab route, that takes some doing. I nailed the crab 2 route today and feel pretty satisfied with that, though I do genuinely dislike the crab boss fights. I was happy when KawaseFan pointed out that 54 wasn't an end route of itself - it means I just need to learn to clear 59 and 33 semi-reliably and then those last two routes should be completable, I don't think there are any other "problem" fields en route, though I guess I'll find out.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: Alc on May 15, 2015, 06:52:51 PM
600+ hours and counting on Steam; the Vita purchase was just for the hell of it, really. Suffice to say that I love that game and the obsession runs pretty deep. There are races tonight on Twitch, incidentally - you might enjoy them.

Congrats on clearing the crab route, that takes some doing. I nailed the crab 2 route today and feel pretty satisfied with that, though I do genuinely dislike the crab boss fights. I was happy when KawaseFan pointed out that 54 wasn't an end route of itself - it means I just need to learn to clear 59 and 33 semi-reliably and then those last two routes should be completable, I don't think there are any other "problem" fields en route, though I guess I'll find out.

Cool, what is the Twitch account with the Spelunky races? I don't know how many hours I've put in, but got all the Trophies on PS4 and Achievements on the 360 so that definitely took a while.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 08:03:13 PM
Oh I did have another question, hope it's just ok to post here instead of starting a new thread.

There's a trophy for watching the ending of the original Umihara Kawase. How do you unlock that? Do you have to beat all the levels?

I really like the original game too but I wish it had a level select (not just the practice mode) like the newer version.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: Alc on May 15, 2015, 08:16:32 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/star_league/

Low Scorer and Speedlunky are tough milestones, huh? The first successful Hell run is a pretty sweet moment, too.

Yeah, to get the trophy I completed the original game, via the crab route if I recall correctly, so no you don't need to beat all the levels. There is a ROM hack of the original game that has level select, if you're up for emulating on PC.
Title: Re: Path to Crab/Full Stage Map
Post by: KawaseFan on June 20, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
Quote from: tylerh1701 on May 15, 2015, 08:03:13 PM
I really like the original game too but I wish it had a level select (not just the practice mode) like the newer version.
Just on that practice mode for a second - I'm sure there are many people out there who appreciate the lack of clear/miss count.

Alc - get on the Umihara Steam group (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/umihara)!